Posted by
rycK on Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:36:20 PM
The Proud March of the Financial
Lepers: Greece Leads the Way Down for California and Other Beggars.
Abstract: The world is sinking
in debt and our political leaders have no clue or solution to the problems.
Their only response is apparently to print more money and salvage errant states
like Greece and California. We have no
responsible financial leadership on the planet anymore, at least not in power, and
equity markets will not be happy with this uncertainty. The EU may crumble over this mess as Germany will not keep wasting
money on financial lepers such as Greece and Spain. Watch the Dow plunge
1000 points on this news.
The angry Germans want to throw
out the Greeks:
“BERLIN, Feb 14 (Reuters) - A majority of
Germans want debt-ridden Greece to be thrown out of the euro zone if necessary and more
than two-thirds oppose handing Athens billions of euros in credit, a poll
published on Sunday showed.”--Germans
say euro zone may have to expel Greece-poll By Madeline Chambers Berlin, Feb 14
(Reuters) [Emphasis is mine in all quotes.]
We always
have to wonder about government and its tacky relationships with their citizens
and how they handle elementary elements of reason. There must be some magical
veil that protects politicos from scrutiny in their dealings in their
respective societies, wranglings with international leaders, debt, spending and
other matters. Apparently, many citizens, such as in Greece, believe that some
popcorn peddler can pony up to the podium and promise jobs, benefits and a
Great Society to the cheering crowds and then drive the whole system into
bankruptcy and default along with currency debasement and other pains and make
the outcome rosy and sweet. According to the new book This Time is
Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly
by Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff this process of overspending, massive
debt, bank crises and defaults are very common in the last several centuries.
Here is a link to a transcript of an interview.
Since this happens so often we must assume that the headlong flight into debt
is some intrinsic human attribute in the low or mentally disnimble classes. The
elitists, crowned with PhDs and other honors such as Nobel Prizes seem to offer
‘advice’ that encourages more government and more spending and a faster track
into financial oblivion. This must be the Ivy League Plague.
Rogoff now counsels Germany to assist Greece:
“Harvard University economist Kenneth Rogoff even
warned Germany could face similar problems to
Greece.
"Germany's public finances are not on a sustainable
path," Rogoff told Welt am Sonntag. "There will come a time when Germany will have its own Greece problem ... it won't be as bad
as in Greece, but it will be painful,"
said Rogoff.
“Germany's budget deficit is forecast
to grow to 5.5 percent of gross domestic product in 2010 and Merkel has vowed
to consolidate the deficit as soon as the recovery allows.”
“However Rogoff, a former International Monetary Fund chief
economist, said helping Greece was unavoidable.”
"As long as Germany isn't ready to kick Greece out of the euro zone, it must help," said Rogoff who
also said an option would be for the Greek government to secure bridging credit.” -- Germans say euro zone may have to
expel Greece
One fails to see the solution here. Germany is
also spending too much so along crawls a leper and refuses to do any thing abut
her diseases and begs for alms and her sisters are encouraged to throw money at
the problem at their own financial peril. Germany is
advised to throw money after bad!? For what purpose? To preserve the European
Union? If Germany has
some financial problems then do they improve if the Germans hand over some cash
to the Greeks? How does that help?
Apparently, and only apparently as the financial facts are
not all that transparent to any inquirer, the EU is an ensemble of states all
on the brink of financial disaster:
“"We fully
support the Greek government and their commitment to do whatever is necessary.
A quote from Mr. van Rompuy "”-- How Greece exposed the slippery slopes of Europe. As European leaders gather to discuss the
fate of Greece,
Andrew Gilligan finds half of Europe
broke, the currency tottering, and a president that can't read a speech. by Andrew Gilligan Published: 7:00AM GMT 14 Feb 2010 [Emphasis is mine in
all quotes.]
We can
only guess what that means.
This was the
concluding analysis by Andrew Gilligan:
“For all its
pretensions of unity, Europe is made up of two very different
kinds of country.
Greece is the most extreme example of
the first kind – corrupt, profligate Mediterranean places where tax evasion is
rife and governments
have brazenly lied about their finances. Germany is the opposite – northern, thrifty,
and responsible, the EU's cash cow. The two kinds of nation, whose
economies are not really compatible, were not ready to share a single currency
at all, but the political desire for the broadest possible union was so great,
and the Mediterraneans' wish to join the club so strong, that blind eyes were
turned. In the long term, the euro can only succeed if the Mediterraneans and
northerners narrow
their economic differences.”-- How Greece
exposed the slippery slopes of Europe.
This Greek Problem reminds me of California [Our
National Leper] and its incompatibility with financial fitness, morality,
sobriety and society. How do you narrow economic differences between prudent
states and cavalier spendthrifts?
Let’s have bigger
government!
“The French, and
indeed Mr van Rompuy, are pushing the idea of an European "economic
government" – a political semi-union that can simply impose, from Brussels, the reforms needed to achieve
convergence across the euro area. To hard-core Eurocrats, this week's crisis is
just one more opportunity to press ahead with Project Superstate. An economic union is, of course,
the logical consequence of a currency union.”-- How Greece
exposed
Well! There you have it!
What is important is to just let the Greeks slide into financial
oblivion because they know some well-meaning public servant will crawl around
and then dish up other people’s money and shovel it into their own private Greek
conduit for their pleasure. Doesn’t the prospect of spending other people’s
money make you all fuzzy and happy inside?
The price for not
being independent and being to manipulate their own currencies:
“Denied the usual
economic remedies – lowering interest rates, or devaluation – by their
membership of the single currency, they will suffer economic stagnation, mass
unemployment and shrinking public services.
For a long time to
come, the people of Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal and Ireland will pay a terrible price for
buying into the euro dream. If the euro itself did not die last week, the dream
certainly did.”--How Greece
exposed
Of course, the EU has no plan to deal with all of this and don’t need IMF help
they say. We
must wonder here that what would be different
if the PIGS exited the EU [or never joined in the first place] and tended to
their own devices. Would we expect less socialism and more financial
competence?
The Brits are now
thankful that they did not become ensnarled in the euro:
“British
schadenfreude [pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others e.d.] has reached new heights of delicious
self-indulgence. There is feverish market speculation that Greece will default on its debt, leave
the euro and create a eurozone crisis as other members are pushed by the
markets into following. It just proves that the euro is and was a disaster, the
thinking goes.”-- Don't
laugh at Europe's
woes. The travails facing Greece are
also ours. The struggle to stop Greece from
becoming a failed state and to make the euro work is one for all Europe,
including Britain [Emphasis is mine in
all quotes.]
Notice that there is no plan here only speculation. Greece,
like Spain and California, in its
own realm, must do what to stay in a system that coddles them and tolerates
their greedy excesses and lack of responsibility on many planes? They don’t
have to do anything but spend and spend and spend. There is no barrier to how
much these failed states can bring down some of their more stable sisters.
Notice that this is a spiral, pointed downward, and devoid
of wise counsel or threatened by any penalties. If the EU issues euro bonds
then the community will be collectively responsible for the miscreant Greek
schemes and what will happen then? Issue some more bonds? Go deeper into debt.
There must be some world-wide influenza or fungus that is
rotting the minds and souls of most of our political leaders. They seem to believe that there is no risk to
curing debt with more spending. We are going to pay for this big time. It will
take a decade of defaults and severe social pain before the voters get sick of
the contagion and throw out those idiots who cannot handle debt.
To maintain stable credit markets in a global community
requires some stability and this slobbering exercise by the ‘leaders’ of the EU
does nothing more than light the fires of uncertainty in world markets and
demean the current notions of responsible credit. Look for major market problems
when idiots like these are allowed to wiggle their jaws in public with no
special inputs from their brains.
Take 1000 points off
the Dow for this.
rycK [a 5th generation Californian
in exile]
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California
Deserves the Greek Prize for Debt. Start Cutting and Cease Spending or Suffer.
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